Make it SO – interview with young creatives

Make it SO is run by the Nuffield Southampton Theatres and it’s their Hampshire Artist Festival where they ask for submissions every year of work in progress or new works which then are shown on a collection of nights (this year starting 11th February till end of February). These collection of nights are where people put on full plays so you’ve got a couple of people doing musicals, a couple of spoken word pieces, a couple of film stuff and then you have the experiment night, which where 5 lucky few get the chance to perform a 15minute scratch performance of a work in progress piece.

We interviewed young playwright and director, Katie-Ann Miles, main actor, Frankie Cater, and photographer and crew manager, Hannah Phillips about their upcoming performance called There’s Some Sunshine!


Katie: So yeah they were asking for online submissions and I sent one in, thinking we’ll get some feedback and that will be nice and then I got an email in November saying right you have to do this whole scratch performance now, so we’re here. I’ve always loved theatre, I performed my first play at Brockenhurst College, it was a musical covering male mental heath called ‘Forgive me’, which raised money for the charity ‘mind’. And ever since then I’ve wanted to keep doing that, maybe as a possible career in the future. So I saw the application for this and thought why not? Why not just go for it? So that’s why I’m here.

Hannah: I’m an old friend of Katie’s and I used to do a lot of stuff with Katie in the past and I kind of left theatre completely for a few years and then decided I wanted to re-enter and I thought this was a good starting point!

Frankie: I’m an ex-student at Brockenhurst College and basically towards the end of college I just lost my passion and didn’t apply for any of the drama schools while everyone else had, so I was just losing my ambition. Then I saw Katie’s Instagram post where she was announcing she was looking for actors so I decided to just go for it because I’ve never performed in a theatre so this is my first time and so I went for it and I’m absolutely loving it.


Katie: So there’s some sunshine is first and foremost is an homage to a friend of mine who is non binary, is gay, but has gone through trauma and has gone through stress and all of that stuff but has come out the other side as a wonderful butterfly of an individual. I wanted to create an LGBTQ+ storyline that wasn’t you know guy gets the guy or whatever it’s not just this kind of focused on romance this is not what it’s about, it’s about finding identity an about platonic love and the destruction of toxic masculinity, and it’s hopefully heart-warming as well as educational.


Frankie: I say just take every opportunity, believe in yourself, and if you want to tell a story or you’ve got something on your mind then write it down, don’t just give up. You should be your biggest supporter, and yeah, don’t give up. Also just, if you don’t believe in yourself, why should anyone else? And you don’t have to follow the steps everyone else is taking, you can do things your own way. Just because someone has gone to a prestige drama school, doesn’t mean that they’re better than you.

Katie: Advice would be to a person who is a little bit young than me is don’t wait for inspiration, as soon as you have an idea, don’t wait for permission or a reason to do it, just start, cause you just won’t stop thinking about it and that’s good. And yeah be your biggest supporter, obviously and you have to know who you are first, I think. So work out who you are, work out what you want and then do it. There’s a really interesting thing that I’ve heard that says: “ This girl was told she wanted to be an astronaut and they went oh but you’ve got to apply to be an astronaut, go through the training, get a degree, and then get on the spaceship, she said but that’s only 4 steps.” So it’s changing your mindset really, work it out, do the thing, succeed. Find out what’s going on in your local area. Get on the lab scheme, search up the lab scheme on the Nuffield website, get involved with stuff.

Only go into education if you know it’s going to give value to your life that just doing the job can’t do, like some jobs, if you’re going into science, kind of need a degree, but if you’re going into the arts and you’re going into vocational arts that are very hands on very focused and gig based, you don’t need it unless you really want it. It’s not the be all and end all.


written by Erin O’Farrell